Comments on: Don’t Drown In A Keyword Domain Name Hunt http://www.chefpatrick.com/dont-drown-in-a-keyword-domain-name-hunt/ Wed, 08 Feb 2012 19:27:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Dtagr http://www.chefpatrick.com/dont-drown-in-a-keyword-domain-name-hunt/#comment-5489 Dtagr Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:09:32 +0000 http://www.chefpatrick.com/?p=5289#comment-5489 As a domainer and an entrepeneur before that I have to wholeheartedly agree with the gist of this post. Never been crazy with slapping random prefixes and suffixes together though. But I think its possible to be creative and relevant when choosing an alternative domain name. Case in point: In 2008 I was in the graffiti removal business and after buying some geo related domains to point to my main site I realized there was something to these domain names. I noticed that graffitiremoval.com had an expiration date in July of 2008, so I backordered it. Well I was outbid at the backorder auction, I hadn't yet realized the true potential of domain names. To cut it short I hand regged Dtagr.com and Dtagrs.com before the end of August. That name worked very well for me, was short,memorable and frankly it surprised people when they saw it for the first time. I have switched to domaining full-time but still get calls on my toll-free number asking about greaffiti removal, and from all over North America. As a domainer and an entrepeneur before that I have to wholeheartedly agree with the gist of this post. Never been crazy with slapping random prefixes and suffixes together though. But I think its possible to be creative and relevant when choosing an alternative domain name.
Case in point:
In 2008 I was in the graffiti removal business and after buying some geo related domains to point to my main site I realized there was something to these domain names. I noticed that graffitiremoval.com had an expiration date in July of 2008, so I backordered it. Well I was outbid at the backorder auction, I hadn’t yet realized the true potential of domain names. To cut it short I hand regged Dtagr.com and Dtagrs.com before the end of August. That name worked very well for me, was short,memorable and frankly it surprised people when they saw it for the first time.
I have switched to domaining full-time but still get calls on my toll-free number asking about greaffiti removal, and from all over North America.

]]> By: Everything.tv http://www.chefpatrick.com/dont-drown-in-a-keyword-domain-name-hunt/#comment-5459 Everything.tv Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:23:59 +0000 http://www.chefpatrick.com/?p=5289#comment-5459 This post really separates two different worlds. Domainers focus on the category specific generic. A lot of entrepreneurs are ego maniacs. Perfect example I had a friend who got a start up going, I said you should look at the Generic Category name.com, He said "F that, this is my baby if it works everyone will remember the name I made up that I created. I don't want to be search.com I want to be Google.com for example. Talking to him about explaining the name and the traffic the generic would get meant nothing. I can honestly say outside of the domaining world I have never met a person in any business who cared what a domainer thought, or the so-called DOMAINER RULES. Obviously some domainers jump on the brandable wagon too. Why ? They have no great names, they do not have the budget to acquire in the secondary market. So they figure a 5 L.com pronounceable is the way. Screw Logo.com I got iLoga.com its memorable. It has little value to a domainer and the only value comes from building a site and maybe the name takes off. The flipside is Google is not successful for any reason the writer of the article mentioned about naming. They are successful because they are smart and had an algorithm to take over search. They could have been called search.com or joystick.com or SergeiLarry.com if they were total ego maniacs. Everyone interprets brandables differently, according to the writer ia brings about the soothing feminine vibe. Is dementia soothing and feminine ? Bottom line people will make up the right answer to go with their agenda. WHEN THE LEGEND BECOMES FACT PRINT THE LEGEND. Again IMO This post really separates two different worlds. Domainers focus on the category specific generic. A lot of entrepreneurs are ego maniacs. Perfect example I had a friend who got a start up going, I said you should look at the Generic Category name.com, He said “F that, this is my baby if it works everyone will remember the name I made up that I created. I don’t want to be search.com I want to be Google.com for example. Talking to him about explaining the name and the traffic the generic would get meant nothing.

I can honestly say outside of the domaining world I have never met a person in any business who cared what a domainer thought, or the so-called DOMAINER RULES.

Obviously some domainers jump on the brandable wagon too. Why ? They have no great names, they do not have the budget to acquire in the secondary market. So they figure a 5 L.com pronounceable is the way. Screw Logo.com I got iLoga.com its memorable. It has little value to a domainer and the only value comes from building a site and maybe the name takes off.

The flipside is Google is not successful for any reason the writer of the article mentioned about naming. They are successful because they are smart and had an algorithm to take over search. They could have been called search.com or joystick.com or SergeiLarry.com if they were total ego maniacs.

Everyone interprets brandables differently, according to the writer ia brings about the soothing feminine vibe. Is dementia soothing and feminine ?

Bottom line people will make up the right answer to go with their agenda. WHEN THE LEGEND BECOMES FACT PRINT THE LEGEND. Again IMO

]]> By: Chef Patrick http://www.chefpatrick.com/dont-drown-in-a-keyword-domain-name-hunt/#comment-5448 Chef Patrick Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:59:43 +0000 http://www.chefpatrick.com/?p=5289#comment-5448 Correct, people that don't know me need an introduction. I enjoy that though, my name is a conversation piece and an ice breaker. My intentions are not to promote BrandBucket. It is to show a different point of view, one that Google, Yahoo, Twitter, Facebook and a few other companies have been successful with. I'll elaborate more of my views in tomorrows post. Thanks for your input Jeff. Correct, people that don’t know me need an introduction. I enjoy that though, my name is a conversation piece and an ice breaker.

My intentions are not to promote BrandBucket. It is to show a different point of view, one that Google, Yahoo, Twitter, Facebook and a few other companies have been successful with.

I’ll elaborate more of my views in tomorrows post.

Thanks for your input Jeff.

]]> By: Product Domains http://www.chefpatrick.com/dont-drown-in-a-keyword-domain-name-hunt/#comment-5447 Product Domains Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:50:18 +0000 http://www.chefpatrick.com/?p=5289#comment-5447 I'm not talking about the people that already visit your blog obviously they know what you do - I should have made that more clear in my initial post. I'm talking about people that don't know who you are - the people you would meet and lets say an affilate marketing conference or anywhere outside the domainer space and you say your blog is chefpatrick.com. I get the point of the guest post here (to promote the made up word domains for sale on brandbucket)- but in all reality it's bad domaining advice imho. I’m not talking about the people that already visit your blog obviously they know what you do – I should have made that more clear in my initial post.

I’m talking about people that don’t know who you are – the people you would meet and lets say an affilate marketing conference or anywhere outside the domainer space and you say your blog is chefpatrick.com.

I get the point of the guest post here (to promote the made up word domains for sale on brandbucket)- but in all reality it’s bad domaining advice imho.

]]> By: Chef Patrick http://www.chefpatrick.com/dont-drown-in-a-keyword-domain-name-hunt/#comment-5446 Chef Patrick Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:24:39 +0000 http://www.chefpatrick.com/?p=5289#comment-5446 I don't know how you are mixing a Facebook name in with my domaining blog. I use Facebook for a lot more than just reaching out to domainers. Of my Facebook friends I'd say that only 1/3 of them are domainer related. "I would imagine the percentage of people that think Patrick is actually a chef and not a domainer is right around 99%." There is no way this is accurate. You are telling me that 99% of my nearly 30,000 visits, roughly 29,700, think I am a chef? I'm sorry, but I disagree with you. For the record. I am not agreeing or disagreeing that keyword domain investing is the way to go. This is a guest post, my views are different than expressed by Caitlin. I don’t know how you are mixing a Facebook name in with my domaining blog. I use Facebook for a lot more than just reaching out to domainers. Of my Facebook friends I’d say that only 1/3 of them are domainer related.

“I would imagine the percentage of people that think Patrick is actually a chef and not a domainer is right around 99%.”

There is no way this is accurate. You are telling me that 99% of my nearly 30,000 visits, roughly 29,700, think I am a chef? I’m sorry, but I disagree with you.

For the record. I am not agreeing or disagreeing that keyword domain investing is the way to go. This is a guest post, my views are different than expressed by Caitlin.

]]> By: Product Domains http://www.chefpatrick.com/dont-drown-in-a-keyword-domain-name-hunt/#comment-5445 Product Domains Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:15:39 +0000 http://www.chefpatrick.com/?p=5289#comment-5445 orly? Comment by Chef Patrick 2009-06-15 20:55:4 Honestly I’m not an SEO or Facebook expert and would have no idea where my Facebook page would rank. This was never something calculated when selecting the name. It was simply a vanity selection, a name that I thought would be cool to have. Why did I select it over my own brand. Personally I love my brand but am getting a little tired of answering the question, do I cook, lol. http://www.chefpatrick.com/controversy-around-facebookcomproblogger/#comment-3961 orly?

Comment by Chef Patrick 2009-06-15 20:55:4

Honestly I’m not an SEO or Facebook expert and would have no idea where my Facebook page would rank. This was never something calculated when selecting the name. It was simply a vanity selection, a name that I thought would be cool to have.

Why did I select it over my own brand. Personally I love my brand but am getting a little tired of answering the question, do I cook, lol.

http://www.chefpatrick.com/controversy-around-facebookcomproblogger/#comment-3961

]]> By: Chef Patrick http://www.chefpatrick.com/dont-drown-in-a-keyword-domain-name-hunt/#comment-5444 Chef Patrick Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:24:33 +0000 http://www.chefpatrick.com/?p=5289#comment-5444 I'm sure people know who I am and what I do! I’m sure people know who I am and what I do!

]]> By: Ken http://www.chefpatrick.com/dont-drown-in-a-keyword-domain-name-hunt/#comment-5443 Ken Sun, 11 Oct 2009 14:44:33 +0000 http://www.chefpatrick.com/?p=5289#comment-5443 Blackfriday.info is the number one natural search result on Google. Provide what users want and you will be on top regardless of TLD, especially if the .com is parked. Blackfriday.info is the number one natural search result on Google. Provide what users want and you will be on top regardless of TLD, especially if the .com is parked.

]]> By: lumpenfolk http://www.chefpatrick.com/dont-drown-in-a-keyword-domain-name-hunt/#comment-5442 lumpenfolk Sun, 11 Oct 2009 14:30:25 +0000 http://www.chefpatrick.com/?p=5289#comment-5442 'the current “battle” between BlackFriday.info vs. BlackFriday.com' I just posted somewhere else (so much for branding!) that the .com looks like a parking page. I wonder how much of the traffic is from people looking for the .info? Interesting. - Paul ‘the current “battle” between BlackFriday.info vs. BlackFriday.com’

I just posted somewhere else (so much for branding!) that the .com looks like a parking page. I wonder how much of the traffic is from people looking for the .info?

Interesting.

- Paul

]]> By: nSathees http://www.chefpatrick.com/dont-drown-in-a-keyword-domain-name-hunt/#comment-5440 nSathees Sun, 11 Oct 2009 11:16:52 +0000 http://www.chefpatrick.com/?p=5289#comment-5440 The keyword rich Names are not replaceable or ignorable. The reason is the build in traffic they curry with them. Any start-up can well start-up with a keyword rich domain name than the other. What you have said is good to coin a new word to match your business. But, do keep this in mind, you need to pour some cash to promote and brand that invention. I am brainstorming for a Domain related names. Nothing but I had to coin 2 generic words. OmegaNames.com is the final outcome. But, I know how difficult & expensive it is going to be to align it with Domain name industries. Just my thoughts . . . The keyword rich Names are not replaceable or ignorable. The reason is the build in traffic they curry with them. Any start-up can well start-up with a keyword rich domain name than the other.

What you have said is good to coin a new word to match your business. But, do keep this in mind, you need to pour some cash to promote and brand that invention.

I am brainstorming for a Domain related names. Nothing but I had to coin 2 generic words. OmegaNames.com is the final outcome. But, I know how difficult & expensive it is going to be to align it with Domain name industries.

Just my thoughts . . .

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