Comments on: Direct VS Paid Traffic http://www.chefpatrick.com/direct-vs-paid-traffic/ Tue, 07 Sep 2010 10:10:33 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Mark Ford http://www.chefpatrick.com/direct-vs-paid-traffic/#comment-4982 Mark Ford Tue, 08 Sep 2009 00:26:17 +0000 http://www.chefpatrick.com/?p=4470#comment-4982 Thank you Anthony. To put things in perspective, I wrote a more in-depth article to explain things. http://nuvi.be/deadnamesystem Thank you Anthony. To put things in perspective, I wrote a more in-depth article to explain things.

http://nuvi.be/deadnamesystem

]]> By: Anthony David http://www.chefpatrick.com/direct-vs-paid-traffic/#comment-4981 Anthony David Mon, 07 Sep 2009 23:57:43 +0000 http://www.chefpatrick.com/?p=4470#comment-4981 I'm a dot com fan, admittingly... and agree with many of the things people said here supporting .com especially free type-ins which never end. But I also think .org is really suitable for geo domains (non-biased with slight governmental feel) plus .org has proven it can rank well in Google whereas .me we will wait and see. I also think think .tv has good potential over the next ten years. However! Everyone should pay attention to what Mark Ford said such as a new TLD coming out such as .g or, call me crazy, but I believe a completely new internet could be rolled out at some point, a second internet, perhaps with new way of addressing sites. Ok, I'll get off the crackpot, the .com is better but the .me had a lot lower acquisition value so check your ROI on both. I’m a dot com fan, admittingly… and agree with many of the things people said here supporting .com especially free type-ins which never end. But I also think .org is really suitable for geo domains (non-biased with slight governmental feel) plus .org has proven it can rank well in Google whereas .me we will wait and see. I also think think .tv has good potential over the next ten years.

However! Everyone should pay attention to what Mark Ford said such as a new TLD coming out such as .g or, call me crazy, but I believe a completely new internet could be rolled out at some point, a second internet, perhaps with new way of addressing sites. Ok, I’ll get off the crackpot, the .com is better but the .me had a lot lower acquisition value so check your ROI on both.

]]> By: Chef Patrick http://www.chefpatrick.com/direct-vs-paid-traffic/#comment-4965 Chef Patrick Sat, 05 Sep 2009 19:21:44 +0000 http://www.chefpatrick.com/?p=4470#comment-4965 Would you mind sharing the .me that ranked well for you? Would you mind sharing the .me that ranked well for you?

]]> By: Denver Web Design http://www.chefpatrick.com/direct-vs-paid-traffic/#comment-4964 Denver Web Design Sat, 05 Sep 2009 19:07:07 +0000 http://www.chefpatrick.com/?p=4470#comment-4964 It's an interesting debate because $170k can get you very, very far in website development and promotion. But there are the people who say type-in traffic is worth its weight in gold (Rick Schwartz). If you have, let's say 500k to spend then the .com is worth it, it all depends on your budget though. I have had a .me rank well in search, it was far tougher than a .com, no doubt about it, but it still does rank. (2 keyword phrase, no hyphen). You will never see type-in traffic for a .me (maybe .001% of a .com) but that is where the price-break comes from. It’s an interesting debate because $170k can get you very, very far in website development and promotion. But there are the people who say type-in traffic is worth its weight in gold (Rick Schwartz). If you have, let’s say 500k to spend then the .com is worth it, it all depends on your budget though.

I have had a .me rank well in search, it was far tougher than a .com, no doubt about it, but it still does rank. (2 keyword phrase, no hyphen). You will never see type-in traffic for a .me (maybe .001% of a .com) but that is where the price-break comes from.

]]> By: Domain Development http://www.chefpatrick.com/direct-vs-paid-traffic/#comment-4959 Domain Development Fri, 04 Sep 2009 13:33:33 +0000 http://www.chefpatrick.com/?p=4470#comment-4959 @David Great points. We've had the same experience with Oakville.com Even though .ca is the ccTLD for Canada, visitors and advertisers alike get our brand, visit our site more than the .ca site and pay more for advertising to be associated with the .com Bottom line is that advertisers pay more - many multiples more - to be associated with the .com - Richard @David

Great points. We’ve had the same experience with Oakville.com

Even though .ca is the ccTLD for Canada, visitors and advertisers alike get our brand, visit our site more than the .ca site and pay more for advertising to be associated with the .com

Bottom line is that advertisers pay more – many multiples more – to be associated with the .com

- Richard

]]> By: Teahupoo http://www.chefpatrick.com/direct-vs-paid-traffic/#comment-4958 Teahupoo Fri, 04 Sep 2009 12:45:38 +0000 http://www.chefpatrick.com/?p=4470#comment-4958 I agree with some of the points made on both side here. I have some other than dot com sites that do well, BUT they do well JUST because I chose exact match keywords and I spent a lot of time and money on linking. I also have dotcoms that are nothing but PHP redirects that are ranked at the top of the SERPs with ZERO promotion. It depends on the competition. It's a lot easier to rank for a term with 100k results than it is to rank for one with over a million. I have seen .org and .us outrank and get more traffic than the .com but the key is the development and linking. Dotcom makes it easier. It's kind of like betting on horse racing ya know. If you study the ponies really good and do your homework you have a chance of picking at least one of the top 3 horses, but if you know someone who can give you an inside tip, you may KNOW the winner. Dotocm makes it easier but you can still achieve great results with other TLDs if you work hard at it. It also helps immensely if the dotcom owner is lazy. ;) Teahupoo I agree with some of the points made on both side here. I have some other than dot com sites that do well, BUT they do well JUST because I chose exact match keywords and I spent a lot of time and money on linking.

I also have dotcoms that are nothing but PHP redirects that are ranked at the top of the SERPs with ZERO promotion. It depends on the competition. It’s a lot easier to rank for a term with 100k results than it is to rank for one with over a million.

I have seen .org and .us outrank and get more traffic than the .com but the key is the development and linking. Dotcom makes it easier.

It’s kind of like betting on horse racing ya know. If you study the ponies really good and do your homework you have a chance of picking at least one of the top 3 horses, but if you know someone who can give you an inside tip, you may KNOW the winner.

Dotocm makes it easier but you can still achieve great results with other TLDs if you work hard at it. It also helps immensely if the dotcom owner is lazy. ;)

Teahupoo

]]> By: George Pickering http://www.chefpatrick.com/direct-vs-paid-traffic/#comment-4957 George Pickering Fri, 04 Sep 2009 12:41:40 +0000 http://www.chefpatrick.com/?p=4470#comment-4957 Well if you could spend $40K buying traffic and make $80K directly off the bought traffic - you would never stop buying traffic. Well if you could spend $40K buying traffic and make $80K directly off the bought traffic – you would never stop buying traffic.

]]> By: Mark Ford http://www.chefpatrick.com/direct-vs-paid-traffic/#comment-4956 Mark Ford Fri, 04 Sep 2009 12:24:48 +0000 http://www.chefpatrick.com/?p=4470#comment-4956 That's crazy.. something branded as .me would drive that much traffic to .com - when was the last time you went to php.com by mistake instead of php.net? Got to love those .com'ers, the whole world revolves around nothing else. Just wait for Google's .g and watch the .com market disappear overnight. That’s crazy.. something branded as .me would drive that much traffic to .com – when was the last time you went to php.com by mistake instead of php.net?

Got to love those .com’ers, the whole world revolves around nothing else. Just wait for Google’s .g and watch the .com market disappear overnight.

]]> By: Danny Pryor http://www.chefpatrick.com/direct-vs-paid-traffic/#comment-4955 Danny Pryor Fri, 04 Sep 2009 11:06:50 +0000 http://www.chefpatrick.com/?p=4470#comment-4955 Funny timing as my business partner is flying to Columbus this morning. Strange coincidences aside, I don't think the inherent value of a .me justifies laying out more than $100, let alone $750. The price of the .com really depends upon what you're going to do with it. Imagine a philanthropist educator snatching up that name to provide us with a naval history of the Spanish explorations to the West Indies, where Columbus accidentally landed in the Caribbean! Probably nobody thought of that one. Funny timing as my business partner is flying to Columbus this morning. Strange coincidences aside, I don’t think the inherent value of a .me justifies laying out more than $100, let alone $750. The price of the .com really depends upon what you’re going to do with it. Imagine a philanthropist educator snatching up that name to provide us with a naval history of the Spanish explorations to the West Indies, where Columbus accidentally landed in the Caribbean! Probably nobody thought of that one.

]]> By: M. Menius http://www.chefpatrick.com/direct-vs-paid-traffic/#comment-4954 M. Menius Fri, 04 Sep 2009 10:35:46 +0000 http://www.chefpatrick.com/?p=4470#comment-4954 Incidentally, if someone could buy Columbus.com for $250,000, jump on it quick. :-) Incidentally, if someone could buy Columbus.com for $250,000, jump on it quick. :-)

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